Mid North Coast Pioneers - Newcastle to Lismore and beyond

Alfred Ernest WELLERAge: 6918821951

Name
Alfred Ernest WELLER
Given names
Alfred Ernest
Surname
WELLER
Birth about 1882 31 29
Citation details: 24410/1882 WELLER ALFRED E THOMAS ELIZA J NEWCASTLE
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Birth of a sisterBathsheba F WELLER
June 13, 1884 (Age 2)
Citation details: 28 March 2007
Text:

Hi Stuart,

This email ended up a lot longer than I planned, but I found I had more info on my work PC than I realised.

Re Bathsheba's death.

They didn't make life easy for those following after. Through the generations there are a number of Bathsheba's. I've listed each (that I know of so far) below.

The first one - wife of Richard Elphick, then Thomas Mead Weller, who was born in Hawkhurst, UK.

The 2nd was the daughter of William Elphick & Mary Ann Gribble (son of Bathsheba & Richard Elphick), who was born in Queensland in 1869. I found a copies of her birth & marriage certificates on my work pc that I've attached. They were sent to me by one of her descendants from Victoria.

The 3rd was the daughter of Thomas Weller jnr. & Eliza Jane Ashby (son of Bathsheba Elphick & Thomas Mead Weller) who was born in Newcastle NSW in 1884 and died 1885. This is the one mentioned in your email.

Re the 'Patzian' listing.

Correct - this is a transcription error. I have located a descendant of Rebecca Weller (daughter of the original Bathsheba & Thomas Mead Weller) named Judith Knox who has generously shared research from her uncle - Frank Letters.

From (faulty) memory Judith's grandmother was Sophie Bastians - daughter of Rebecca Weller & Henry Bastians & she in turn married Napoleon Letters.

Trivia: Henry Bastians was Captain Henry Bastians - a mariner.

Citation details: 28 March 2007
Text:

Edit Copy Delete Hi Stuart,

I thought I had this somewhere - it's from the book I stumbled upon in the State Library that I mentioned in my earlier message. I don't recall having taken a copy from the actual newspaper notice yet.

Bathsheba Friend WELLER, daughter of Thomas WELLER and Eliza Jane ASHBY, was born in July 1884 in Newcastle. She died on 26 February 1885 in Newcastle. She was buried in North Waratah.

In the Hunter Valley Register, 1884-1890, Register 2, Volume 5, W - Y Oddments, the following death notice is recorded:

WELLER, Bethsheba The Friends of Thomas Weller are invited to attend the funeral of his daughter, Bathsheba Weller to leave his residence, Adamstown for North Waratah Cemetery. J Gray NMH 27.2.1885.

Bye for now, Chris

Citation details: WELLER BATHSHEBA F 28127/1884 THOMAS JANE NEWCASTLE
Quality of data: primary evidence
Death of a sisterBathsheba F WELLER
February 26, 1885 (Age 3)
Citation details: 13463/1885 WELLER BATHSHEBA F THOMAS ELIZA J LAMBTON
Quality of data: primary evidence
Citation details: 28 March 2007
Text:

Hi Stuart,

This email ended up a lot longer than I planned, but I found I had more info on my work PC than I realised.

Re Bathsheba's death.

They didn't make life easy for those following after. Through the generations there are a number of Bathsheba's. I've listed each (that I know of so far) below.

The first one - wife of Richard Elphick, then Thomas Mead Weller, who was born in Hawkhurst, UK.

The 2nd was the daughter of William Elphick & Mary Ann Gribble (son of Bathsheba & Richard Elphick), who was born in Queensland in 1869. I found a copies of her birth & marriage certificates on my work pc that I've attached. They were sent to me by one of her descendants from Victoria.

The 3rd was the daughter of Thomas Weller jnr. & Eliza Jane Ashby (son of Bathsheba Elphick & Thomas Mead Weller) who was born in Newcastle NSW in 1884 and died 1885. This is the one mentioned in your email.

Re the 'Patzian' listing.

Correct - this is a transcription error. I have located a descendant of Rebecca Weller (daughter of the original Bathsheba & Thomas Mead Weller) named Judith Knox who has generously shared research from her uncle - Frank Letters.

From (faulty) memory Judith's grandmother was Sophie Bastians - daughter of Rebecca Weller & Henry Bastians & she in turn married Napoleon Letters.

Trivia: Henry Bastians was Captain Henry Bastians - a mariner.

Citation details: 28 March 2007
Text:

Edit Copy Delete Hi Stuart,

I thought I had this somewhere - it's from the book I stumbled upon in the State Library that I mentioned in my earlier message. I don't recall having taken a copy from the actual newspaper notice yet.

Bathsheba Friend WELLER, daughter of Thomas WELLER and Eliza Jane ASHBY, was born in July 1884 in Newcastle. She died on 26 February 1885 in Newcastle. She was buried in North Waratah.

In the Hunter Valley Register, 1884-1890, Register 2, Volume 5, W - Y Oddments, the following death notice is recorded:

WELLER, Bethsheba The Friends of Thomas Weller are invited to attend the funeral of his daughter, Bathsheba Weller to leave his residence, Adamstown for North Waratah Cemetery. J Gray NMH 27.2.1885.

Bye for now, Chris

Burial of a sisterBathsheba F WELLER
February 27, 1885 (Age 3)
Citation details: 28 March 2007
Text:

Edit Copy Delete Hi Stuart,

I thought I had this somewhere - it's from the book I stumbled upon in the State Library that I mentioned in my earlier message. I don't recall having taken a copy from the actual newspaper notice yet.

Bathsheba Friend WELLER, daughter of Thomas WELLER and Eliza Jane ASHBY, was born in July 1884 in Newcastle. She died on 26 February 1885 in Newcastle. She was buried in North Waratah.

In the Hunter Valley Register, 1884-1890, Register 2, Volume 5, W - Y Oddments, the following death notice is recorded:

WELLER, Bethsheba The Friends of Thomas Weller are invited to attend the funeral of his daughter, Bathsheba Weller to leave his residence, Adamstown for North Waratah Cemetery. J Gray NMH 27.2.1885.

Bye for now, Chris

Citation details: Friday 27 February 1885, page 3
Weller - Bethshebe Freind - Funeral Notice
Weller - Bethshebe Freind - Funeral Notice

Note: Downloaded from Trove.

Death of a paternal grandmotherBathsheba FRIEND
August 3, 1887 (Age 5)
Address: Church Street
Citation details: 27 March 2007
Text:

Email from Christine White 27 March, 2007.

Edited.

Until I check what's on Ancestry etc, here's some info re Edward Albert Elphick's grandmother - Bathsheba Friend.

FRIEND, Bathsheba B. 1815c; D. 3 August, 1887 Born Hawkhurst, Kent UK, died North Waratah, NSW.

Arrived aboard the 'Eleanor' on 21 August, 1841. Her immigration record noted that she was born in Hawkhurst; her parents were Thomas FRIEND and Phillis WOOLYER & were still alive; she was sponsored by Thomas Gore & Co; was in good health, but had been in quarantine during the voyage; could read and write her 'calling' was cook and her religion was Protestant.

She was accompanied by her 2 sons, Charles 5 years & William 1½ . Her first husband Richard ELPHICK died at sea during the voyage.

Also aboard the 'Eleanor' were Bathsheba's sister Rebecca, born 23 November, 1817, Hawkhurst, Kent and her husband, Henry Francis WOODGATE. Rebecca & Henry married at Hawkhurst. They are believed to have had one child, born approx 1840, Hawkhurst.

Children of Bathsheba Friend & Richard ELPHICK: 1.Charles ELPHICK, b abt 1836 Hawkhurst, UK; d 1903 Newcastle NSW. 2.William ELPHICK, b abt 1840 Hawkhurst, UK

More about William ELPHICK. Little is known about William's early life. It is known that he had a relationship with Mary Ann Gribble. A record of their marriage has not been located. They had 3 children: 1.Charles born about 1862 at Lachlan Diggings, NSW. 2.Richard Thomas (named for his 2 grandfathers) born at Cashmere Station, Qld 1868 and died the same year. 3.Bathsheba Jane (named for her 2 grandmothers) born 1869 at Cashmere Station, Qld.

William was a butcher by trade.

Mary Ann Gribble was born in 1844 at Wilberforce NSW. Her parents were convicts, Thomas Gribble and Jane Irwin.

Charles (eldest son of William Elphick & Mary Ann Gribble) married Sarah McNanley, 1884 in Brisbane. (The Qld BDM record 1884/B009319 records her name as Silby McNanley.) Sarah was born in Manchester UK 1863. Her parents were Felix McNanley and Sarah Watson who may have arrived in Australia via Moreton Bay.

Charles and Sarah eventually moved to Victoria where Charles worked in Melbourne for some time before moving to Gippsland where he worked in a coal mine before settling on a dairy farm outside Foster in South Gippsland where they remained for the rest of their lives. They had a total of 9 children, including Alice Bathsheba Elphick, born 1898.

Bathsheba Jane married James Thomas Rogers in 1889 at Mormanton, Qld. James was a Customs officer. They had one unnamed child in 1892, who died shortly after birth. It is not known if they had any other children.

More about Charles ELPHICK (son of Bathsheba FRIEND & Richard ELPHICK, b abt 1856). Charles died in 1903 aged about 47 years, in Newcastle and it is stated on his birth certificate that it was unknown whether he was married or had children. He was a butcher by trade. (Jan - I have a copy of Charles's death certificate on file - happy to send a copy if you'd like it. cw)

Bathsheba formed a relationship with Thomas Mead WELLER. No record of a marriage has been located.

Children of Thomas Mead WELLER and Bathsheba FRIEND: 1.Sarah L WELLER b 1843, Sydney; d 1843 Sydney. Baptised 22 November, 1843, St Matthews CoE, Windsor. 2.Henry WELLER, b 12 July 1844; Stoke Hill, NSW d 18 December, 1908, Sydney 3.Rebecca WELLER, b 1848; m Captain Henry BASTIANS (BDM Ref V18481174 33A/1848). 4.Thomas WELLER, b 1851, St Matthews Windsor NSW (BDM Ref V18511837 37A/1851)

NB: Another descendant has suggested that Bathsheba & Richard Elphick also had a 3rd son who did not accompany them to Australia. I cannot confirm this & I don't know their sources.

Bye for now, Chris

Publication: Newcastle, Newcastle Morning Herald, 4 Aug 1887
Birth of a sisterEthel May WELLER
about 1888 (Age 6)
Citation details: 31049/1888 WELLER ETHEL M THOMAS ELIZA J NEWCASTLE
Quality of data: secondary evidence
Birth of a sisterHyasinth Maude WELLER
about 1891 (Age 9)
Citation details: 36177/1891 WELLER HYASINTH M THOMAS M ELIZA J WARATAH
Marriage of a siblingBernard E REDMONDRebecca B WELLERView this family
about 1901 (Age 19)
Citation details: 5529/1901 REDMOND BERNARD E WELLER REBECCA B SYDNEY
Marriage of a siblingThomas Mead WELLERAnnie Jane SANDEMANView this family
about 1906 (Age 24)
Citation details: 10958/1906 WELLER THOMAS M SANDEMAN ANNIE J RAYMOND TERRACE
MarriageSarah A CHAPMANView this family
about 1907 (Age 25)
Citation details: 5179/1907 WELLER ALFRED E CHAPMAN SARAH A NEWCASTLE
Marriage of a siblingJames Melville HUNGERFORDHyasinth Maude WELLERView this family
about 1916 (Age 34)
Citation details: 4000/1916 HUNGERFORD JAMES M WELLER HYACINTH M GOSFORD
Death of a motherEliza Jane ASHBY
May 1, 1929 (Age 47)
Citation details: WELLER ELIZA J 9550/1929  JOSEPH CHARLOTTE HAMILTON
Quality of data: primary evidence
Death of a brotherThomas Mead WELLER
July 11, 1931 (Age 49)
Citation details: 13396/1931 WELLER THOMAS M THOMAS ELIZA J NEWCASTLE
Burial of a brotherThomas Mead WELLER
July 12, 1931 (Age 49)
Address: Section NW Lot 89
Cemetery: Sandgate General
Religion: Presbyterian
Text:

Weller Thomas Meade 1931-07-12 PRESBYTERIAN 12NW 89 151.707053957 -32.868667085

Weller - Thomas Mead, Annie Jane and Thomas John
Weller - Thomas Mead, Annie Jane and Thomas John

Note: Downloaded from sandgate.northerncemeteries.com.au


Weller - Thomas Mead, Annie Jane and Thomas John
Weller - Thomas Mead, Annie Jane and Thomas John

Note: Downloaded from sandgate.northerncemeteries.com.au

Death of a fatherThomas Mead WELLER
April 26, 1934 (Age 52)
Citation details: WELLER THOMAS M 10656/1934  THOMAS BALHSHEBA ADAMSTOWN
Quality of data: primary evidence
Death about 1951 (Age 69)
Citation details: WELLER ALFRED ERNEST 19676/1951 THOMAS MEAD ELIZA JANE NEWCASTLE
Family with parents - View this family
father
mother
Marriage: about 1874Balmain, , New South Wales, Australia
1 year
elder sister
3 years
elder sister
3 years
elder sister
Sophia WELLER
Birth: about 1878 27 25Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1880Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
3 years
elder brother
Thomas Mead WELLER
Birth: about 1880 29 27Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: July 11, 1931Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
3 years
himself
Alfred Ernest WELLER
Birth: about 1882 31 29Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1951Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
2 years
younger sister
Bathsheba F WELLER
Birth: June 13, 1884 33 31Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: February 26, 1885Lambton, , New South Wales, Australia
5 years
younger sister
Ethel May WELLER
Birth: about 1888 37 35Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1961Hamilton, , New South Wales, Australia
4 years
younger sister
Hyasinth Maude WELLER
Birth: about 1891 40 38Waratah, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1956Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
Family with Sarah A CHAPMAN - View this family
himself
Alfred Ernest WELLER
Birth: about 1882 31 29Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
Death: about 1951Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia
wife
Marriage: about 1907Newcastle, , New South Wales, Australia

BirthW - Births Registered in New South Wales
Citation details: 24410/1882 WELLER ALFRED E THOMAS ELIZA J NEWCASTLE
Quality of data: secondary evidence
MarriageW - Marriages Registered in New South Wales
Citation details: 5179/1907 WELLER ALFRED E CHAPMAN SARAH A NEWCASTLE
DeathW - Deaths Registered in New South Wales
Citation details: WELLER ALFRED ERNEST 19676/1951 THOMAS MEAD ELIZA JANE NEWCASTLE