Mid North Coast Pioneers - Newcastle to Lismore and beyond

Henry BASTIANAge: 52 years18461898

Name
Henry BASTIAN
Given names
Henry
Surname
BASTIAN
Also known as
Henry PAZTIAN
Publication: 1872/000819
Birth calculated 1846

Citation details: 9 March 2010
Text:

Hello Stuart,

Many thanks for replying so quickly.

I am that Judith Knox.

Rebecca was 54 when she died.

Rebecca and Henry Bastian did not have any children. Sophie was not Henry Bastian’s daughter, my grandmother did not know this until she was an adult.

Rebecca's daughter Sophie (b.20.2.1870/71 – have not found the Birth Certificate* died 14.8.1954 Vaucluse Sydney) married Francis Letters, born in Alloa Scotland 6.6.1858 and died at Annandale Sydney 27.7.1931.

Sophie and Francis were married on 26.1.1897.

They had 4 sons all born in Gympie, Queensland. Francis Joseph Henry Letters 6.12.1897 - 23.9.1964 Louis Gilbert Letters 15.2.1899 - 24.10.1973 Napoleon (Leon) Ignatius Letters 9.6.1901 – 12.7.1979 Charles Stanislaus Letters 30.1.1905 – 24.1.1952 (died unmarried)

Leon Letters was my father, I am his eldest. I was born Judith Elizabeth Letters on 4.4.1943 in Coonamble NSW and married David Wykeham Knox (b.27.12.1935 in Bowral NSW) on 23.4.1970 in Sydney. We have 5 children and 2 grandchildren – so far. 1 sister and 1 brother.

Henry Bastian has been very difficult to find. I have spent about 30 years trying to find him. The Marriage Certificate had his name as “Henry Paztian” and he was supposed to be from Germany. No parents’ names were given for either Henry or Sophie although he was described as a “Mariner”. Henry’s Death Certificate said that his father was a Mariner, so perhaps there was some truth in the story that he was “born at sea and died at sea” as we had been told. One branch of the family say that he was a member of the “Plymouth Brethren” and was “drummed out of his church for marrying outside the faith”. I don’t know how true that is. I note from his Death Certificate that no Clergy was present. He was 52 when he died – he was the Master of the Steamer “Little Nell” which capsized. His cargo was a tug. I am still looking for his birth. I am trying to find the exact date of Thomas Weller's birth although I understand he was born in 1820.

At the present time I am collating BDM’S and other information for my children, siblings and cousins - it is a bigger job that I thought as I keep on finding more and more stuff.

  • I think I may have found a fictitious Birth Registration for her at Brisbane Waters District at “Blue Gum Flat”. We were told she was born in Melbourne but my brother said that he thinks that he has something somewhere which says that she was born somewhere near that area.

    When I have myself organized I will send your information on our families.

    Best wishes Judith Knox Sydney

Publication: 16063/1898
Publication: 1872/000819
Note: His marriage certificate states that he was 26 years old at the time of his marriage in 1872. His death certificate states that he was 52 years old at the time of his death in 1898.
Note: His marriage certificate states that he was born in Germany. His death certificate states that he was born in Ramsgate, England.
Religious marriageRebecca WELLERView this family
September 28, 1872 (Age 26 years)
Address: Presbyterian Church Elizabeth Street
Citation details: 27 March 2007
Text:

Email from Christine White 27 March, 2007.

Edited.

Until I check what's on Ancestry etc, here's some info re Edward Albert Elphick's grandmother - Bathsheba Friend.

FRIEND, Bathsheba B. 1815c; D. 3 August, 1887 Born Hawkhurst, Kent UK, died North Waratah, NSW.

Arrived aboard the 'Eleanor' on 21 August, 1841. Her immigration record noted that she was born in Hawkhurst; her parents were Thomas FRIEND and Phillis WOOLYER & were still alive; she was sponsored by Thomas Gore & Co; was in good health, but had been in quarantine during the voyage; could read and write her 'calling' was cook and her religion was Protestant.

She was accompanied by her 2 sons, Charles 5 years & William 1½ . Her first husband Richard ELPHICK died at sea during the voyage.

Also aboard the 'Eleanor' were Bathsheba's sister Rebecca, born 23 November, 1817, Hawkhurst, Kent and her husband, Henry Francis WOODGATE. Rebecca & Henry married at Hawkhurst. They are believed to have had one child, born approx 1840, Hawkhurst.

Children of Bathsheba Friend & Richard ELPHICK: 1.Charles ELPHICK, b abt 1836 Hawkhurst, UK; d 1903 Newcastle NSW. 2.William ELPHICK, b abt 1840 Hawkhurst, UK

More about William ELPHICK. Little is known about William's early life. It is known that he had a relationship with Mary Ann Gribble. A record of their marriage has not been located. They had 3 children: 1.Charles born about 1862 at Lachlan Diggings, NSW. 2.Richard Thomas (named for his 2 grandfathers) born at Cashmere Station, Qld 1868 and died the same year. 3.Bathsheba Jane (named for her 2 grandmothers) born 1869 at Cashmere Station, Qld.

William was a butcher by trade.

Mary Ann Gribble was born in 1844 at Wilberforce NSW. Her parents were convicts, Thomas Gribble and Jane Irwin.

Charles (eldest son of William Elphick & Mary Ann Gribble) married Sarah McNanley, 1884 in Brisbane. (The Qld BDM record 1884/B009319 records her name as Silby McNanley.) Sarah was born in Manchester UK 1863. Her parents were Felix McNanley and Sarah Watson who may have arrived in Australia via Moreton Bay.

Charles and Sarah eventually moved to Victoria where Charles worked in Melbourne for some time before moving to Gippsland where he worked in a coal mine before settling on a dairy farm outside Foster in South Gippsland where they remained for the rest of their lives. They had a total of 9 children, including Alice Bathsheba Elphick, born 1898.

Bathsheba Jane married James Thomas Rogers in 1889 at Mormanton, Qld. James was a Customs officer. They had one unnamed child in 1892, who died shortly after birth. It is not known if they had any other children.

More about Charles ELPHICK (son of Bathsheba FRIEND & Richard ELPHICK, b abt 1856). Charles died in 1903 aged about 47 years, in Newcastle and it is stated on his birth certificate that it was unknown whether he was married or had children. He was a butcher by trade. (Jan - I have a copy of Charles's death certificate on file - happy to send a copy if you'd like it. cw)

Bathsheba formed a relationship with Thomas Mead WELLER. No record of a marriage has been located.

Children of Thomas Mead WELLER and Bathsheba FRIEND: 1.Sarah L WELLER b 1843, Sydney; d 1843 Sydney. Baptised 22 November, 1843, St Matthews CoE, Windsor. 2.Henry WELLER, b 12 July 1844; Stoke Hill, NSW d 18 December, 1908, Sydney 3.Rebecca WELLER, b 1848; m Captain Henry BASTIANS (BDM Ref V18481174 33A/1848). 4.Thomas WELLER, b 1851, St Matthews Windsor NSW (BDM Ref V18511837 37A/1851)

NB: Another descendant has suggested that Bathsheba & Richard Elphick also had a 3rd son who did not accompany them to Australia. I cannot confirm this & I don't know their sources.

Bye for now, Chris

Citation details: 819/1872 PAZTIAN HENRY WELLER REBECCA SYDNEY
Citation details: 9 March 2010
Text:

Hello Stuart,

Many thanks for replying so quickly.

I am that Judith Knox.

Rebecca was 54 when she died.

Rebecca and Henry Bastian did not have any children. Sophie was not Henry Bastian’s daughter, my grandmother did not know this until she was an adult.

Rebecca's daughter Sophie (b.20.2.1870/71 – have not found the Birth Certificate* died 14.8.1954 Vaucluse Sydney) married Francis Letters, born in Alloa Scotland 6.6.1858 and died at Annandale Sydney 27.7.1931.

Sophie and Francis were married on 26.1.1897.

They had 4 sons all born in Gympie, Queensland. Francis Joseph Henry Letters 6.12.1897 - 23.9.1964 Louis Gilbert Letters 15.2.1899 - 24.10.1973 Napoleon (Leon) Ignatius Letters 9.6.1901 – 12.7.1979 Charles Stanislaus Letters 30.1.1905 – 24.1.1952 (died unmarried)

Leon Letters was my father, I am his eldest. I was born Judith Elizabeth Letters on 4.4.1943 in Coonamble NSW and married David Wykeham Knox (b.27.12.1935 in Bowral NSW) on 23.4.1970 in Sydney. We have 5 children and 2 grandchildren – so far. 1 sister and 1 brother.

Henry Bastian has been very difficult to find. I have spent about 30 years trying to find him. The Marriage Certificate had his name as “Henry Paztian” and he was supposed to be from Germany. No parents’ names were given for either Henry or Sophie although he was described as a “Mariner”. Henry’s Death Certificate said that his father was a Mariner, so perhaps there was some truth in the story that he was “born at sea and died at sea” as we had been told. One branch of the family say that he was a member of the “Plymouth Brethren” and was “drummed out of his church for marrying outside the faith”. I don’t know how true that is. I note from his Death Certificate that no Clergy was present. He was 52 when he died – he was the Master of the Steamer “Little Nell” which capsized. His cargo was a tug. I am still looking for his birth. I am trying to find the exact date of Thomas Weller's birth although I understand he was born in 1820.

At the present time I am collating BDM’S and other information for my children, siblings and cousins - it is a bigger job that I thought as I keep on finding more and more stuff.

  • I think I may have found a fictitious Birth Registration for her at Brisbane Waters District at “Blue Gum Flat”. We were told she was born in Melbourne but my brother said that he thinks that he has something somewhere which says that she was born somewhere near that area.

    When I have myself organized I will send your information on our families.

    Best wishes Judith Knox Sydney

Publication: 16063/1898
Publication: 1903/001957
Publication: 1872/000819
Occupation
Master Mariner
between 1878 and 1898 (Age 32 years)

Citation details: 28 March 2007
Text:

Hi Stuart,

This email ended up a lot longer than I planned, but I found I had more info on my work PC than I realised.

Re Bathsheba's death.

They didn't make life easy for those following after. Through the generations there are a number of Bathsheba's. I've listed each (that I know of so far) below.

The first one - wife of Richard Elphick, then Thomas Mead Weller, who was born in Hawkhurst, UK.

The 2nd was the daughter of William Elphick & Mary Ann Gribble (son of Bathsheba & Richard Elphick), who was born in Queensland in 1869. I found a copies of her birth & marriage certificates on my work pc that I've attached. They were sent to me by one of her descendants from Victoria.

The 3rd was the daughter of Thomas Weller jnr. & Eliza Jane Ashby (son of Bathsheba Elphick & Thomas Mead Weller) who was born in Newcastle NSW in 1884 and died 1885. This is the one mentioned in your email.

Re the 'Patzian' listing.

Correct - this is a transcription error. I have located a descendant of Rebecca Weller (daughter of the original Bathsheba & Thomas Mead Weller) named Judith Knox who has generously shared research from her uncle - Frank Letters.

From (faulty) memory Judith's grandmother was Sophie Bastians - daughter of Rebecca Weller & Henry Bastians & she in turn married Napoleon Letters.

Trivia: Henry Bastians was Captain Henry Bastians - a mariner.

Citation details: 9 March 2010
Text:

Hello Stuart,

Many thanks for replying so quickly.

I am that Judith Knox.

Rebecca was 54 when she died.

Rebecca and Henry Bastian did not have any children. Sophie was not Henry Bastian’s daughter, my grandmother did not know this until she was an adult.

Rebecca's daughter Sophie (b.20.2.1870/71 – have not found the Birth Certificate* died 14.8.1954 Vaucluse Sydney) married Francis Letters, born in Alloa Scotland 6.6.1858 and died at Annandale Sydney 27.7.1931.

Sophie and Francis were married on 26.1.1897.

They had 4 sons all born in Gympie, Queensland. Francis Joseph Henry Letters 6.12.1897 - 23.9.1964 Louis Gilbert Letters 15.2.1899 - 24.10.1973 Napoleon (Leon) Ignatius Letters 9.6.1901 – 12.7.1979 Charles Stanislaus Letters 30.1.1905 – 24.1.1952 (died unmarried)

Leon Letters was my father, I am his eldest. I was born Judith Elizabeth Letters on 4.4.1943 in Coonamble NSW and married David Wykeham Knox (b.27.12.1935 in Bowral NSW) on 23.4.1970 in Sydney. We have 5 children and 2 grandchildren – so far. 1 sister and 1 brother.

Henry Bastian has been very difficult to find. I have spent about 30 years trying to find him. The Marriage Certificate had his name as “Henry Paztian” and he was supposed to be from Germany. No parents’ names were given for either Henry or Sophie although he was described as a “Mariner”. Henry’s Death Certificate said that his father was a Mariner, so perhaps there was some truth in the story that he was “born at sea and died at sea” as we had been told. One branch of the family say that he was a member of the “Plymouth Brethren” and was “drummed out of his church for marrying outside the faith”. I don’t know how true that is. I note from his Death Certificate that no Clergy was present. He was 52 when he died – he was the Master of the Steamer “Little Nell” which capsized. His cargo was a tug. I am still looking for his birth. I am trying to find the exact date of Thomas Weller's birth although I understand he was born in 1820.

At the present time I am collating BDM’S and other information for my children, siblings and cousins - it is a bigger job that I thought as I keep on finding more and more stuff.

  • I think I may have found a fictitious Birth Registration for her at Brisbane Waters District at “Blue Gum Flat”. We were told she was born in Melbourne but my brother said that he thinks that he has something somewhere which says that she was born somewhere near that area.

    When I have myself organized I will send your information on our families.

    Best wishes Judith Knox Sydney

Publication: 16063/1898
Number of childrenRebecca WELLERView this family
0

Citation details: 9 March 2010
Text:

Hello Stuart,

Many thanks for replying so quickly.

I am that Judith Knox.

Rebecca was 54 when she died.

Rebecca and Henry Bastian did not have any children. Sophie was not Henry Bastian’s daughter, my grandmother did not know this until she was an adult.

Rebecca's daughter Sophie (b.20.2.1870/71 – have not found the Birth Certificate* died 14.8.1954 Vaucluse Sydney) married Francis Letters, born in Alloa Scotland 6.6.1858 and died at Annandale Sydney 27.7.1931.

Sophie and Francis were married on 26.1.1897.

They had 4 sons all born in Gympie, Queensland. Francis Joseph Henry Letters 6.12.1897 - 23.9.1964 Louis Gilbert Letters 15.2.1899 - 24.10.1973 Napoleon (Leon) Ignatius Letters 9.6.1901 – 12.7.1979 Charles Stanislaus Letters 30.1.1905 – 24.1.1952 (died unmarried)

Leon Letters was my father, I am his eldest. I was born Judith Elizabeth Letters on 4.4.1943 in Coonamble NSW and married David Wykeham Knox (b.27.12.1935 in Bowral NSW) on 23.4.1970 in Sydney. We have 5 children and 2 grandchildren – so far. 1 sister and 1 brother.

Henry Bastian has been very difficult to find. I have spent about 30 years trying to find him. The Marriage Certificate had his name as “Henry Paztian” and he was supposed to be from Germany. No parents’ names were given for either Henry or Sophie although he was described as a “Mariner”. Henry’s Death Certificate said that his father was a Mariner, so perhaps there was some truth in the story that he was “born at sea and died at sea” as we had been told. One branch of the family say that he was a member of the “Plymouth Brethren” and was “drummed out of his church for marrying outside the faith”. I don’t know how true that is. I note from his Death Certificate that no Clergy was present. He was 52 when he died – he was the Master of the Steamer “Little Nell” which capsized. His cargo was a tug. I am still looking for his birth. I am trying to find the exact date of Thomas Weller's birth although I understand he was born in 1820.

At the present time I am collating BDM’S and other information for my children, siblings and cousins - it is a bigger job that I thought as I keep on finding more and more stuff.

  • I think I may have found a fictitious Birth Registration for her at Brisbane Waters District at “Blue Gum Flat”. We were told she was born in Melbourne but my brother said that he thinks that he has something somewhere which says that she was born somewhere near that area.

    When I have myself organized I will send your information on our families.

    Best wishes Judith Knox Sydney

Note: It is understood that they had no children.
Death December 16, 1898 (Age 52 years)
Address: 2 Miles off Redhead, Newcastle, NSW.
Cause of death: Drowned when his ship foundered.
Citation details: 2 March 2010
Text:

The following message has been sent to your PhpGedView user account from Judith Knox

Your Name: Judith Knox Email Address: knoxletters@hotmail.com

Which of Bathsheba's children are you decended from? I am one of Rebecca's great grandchildren. I have just completed a list of Rebecca's decendants. Rebecca died 6.1.1903 in Gympie and her husband Henry Bastian died 16.12.1898.

Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 16053/1898 BASTIAN HENRY CHRISTOPHER LAURA STOCKTON
Publication: 16063/1898
Note: Transcript from The Sydney Morning Herald, Saturday 17 December 1898.
Inquest
Investigating the death of Henry Bastian
December 17, 1898 (1 day after death)
Address: Clarendon Hotel
Note: Geo. C. Martin was the Coroner.
Note: Transcript from Brisbane Courier Monday 19 December, 1898
Note: Transcript from The Sydney Morning Herald, Monday 19 December 1898.
Note: Transcript from the Sydney Morning Herald of Sat, 2 Dec 1899



Burial December 18, 1898 (2 days after death)
Address: Por: ANGLICAN_1 Sec: 38 Lot: 54 Buried on: 18/12/1898 Lat: -32.871214956 Long: 151.706706217
Cemetery: Sandgate General
Publication: 16063/1898
Bastian - Henry
Bastian - Henry

Note: Image kindly made available by Sandgate Cemetery Trust.

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Marriage: September 28, 1872Sydney, , New South Wales, Australia
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BirthEmails - Judith Knox
Citation details: 9 March 2010
Text:

Hello Stuart,

Many thanks for replying so quickly.

I am that Judith Knox.

Rebecca was 54 when she died.

Rebecca and Henry Bastian did not have any children. Sophie was not Henry Bastian’s daughter, my grandmother did not know this until she was an adult.

Rebecca's daughter Sophie (b.20.2.1870/71 – have not found the Birth Certificate* died 14.8.1954 Vaucluse Sydney) married Francis Letters, born in Alloa Scotland 6.6.1858 and died at Annandale Sydney 27.7.1931.

Sophie and Francis were married on 26.1.1897.

They had 4 sons all born in Gympie, Queensland. Francis Joseph Henry Letters 6.12.1897 - 23.9.1964 Louis Gilbert Letters 15.2.1899 - 24.10.1973 Napoleon (Leon) Ignatius Letters 9.6.1901 – 12.7.1979 Charles Stanislaus Letters 30.1.1905 – 24.1.1952 (died unmarried)

Leon Letters was my father, I am his eldest. I was born Judith Elizabeth Letters on 4.4.1943 in Coonamble NSW and married David Wykeham Knox (b.27.12.1935 in Bowral NSW) on 23.4.1970 in Sydney. We have 5 children and 2 grandchildren – so far. 1 sister and 1 brother.

Henry Bastian has been very difficult to find. I have spent about 30 years trying to find him. The Marriage Certificate had his name as “Henry Paztian” and he was supposed to be from Germany. No parents’ names were given for either Henry or Sophie although he was described as a “Mariner”. Henry’s Death Certificate said that his father was a Mariner, so perhaps there was some truth in the story that he was “born at sea and died at sea” as we had been told. One branch of the family say that he was a member of the “Plymouth Brethren” and was “drummed out of his church for marrying outside the faith”. I don’t know how true that is. I note from his Death Certificate that no Clergy was present. He was 52 when he died – he was the Master of the Steamer “Little Nell” which capsized. His cargo was a tug. I am still looking for his birth. I am trying to find the exact date of Thomas Weller's birth although I understand he was born in 1820.

At the present time I am collating BDM’S and other information for my children, siblings and cousins - it is a bigger job that I thought as I keep on finding more and more stuff.

  • I think I may have found a fictitious Birth Registration for her at Brisbane Waters District at “Blue Gum Flat”. We were told she was born in Melbourne but my brother said that he thinks that he has something somewhere which says that she was born somewhere near that area.

    When I have myself organized I will send your information on our families.

    Best wishes Judith Knox Sydney

BirthDeath Certificate - Bastian - Henry
Publication: 16063/1898
BirthMarriage Certificate - Paztian - Weller
Publication: 1872/000819
MarriageEmails - Christine White
Citation details: 27 March 2007
Text:

Email from Christine White 27 March, 2007.

Edited.

Until I check what's on Ancestry etc, here's some info re Edward Albert Elphick's grandmother - Bathsheba Friend.

FRIEND, Bathsheba B. 1815c; D. 3 August, 1887 Born Hawkhurst, Kent UK, died North Waratah, NSW.

Arrived aboard the 'Eleanor' on 21 August, 1841. Her immigration record noted that she was born in Hawkhurst; her parents were Thomas FRIEND and Phillis WOOLYER & were still alive; she was sponsored by Thomas Gore & Co; was in good health, but had been in quarantine during the voyage; could read and write her 'calling' was cook and her religion was Protestant.

She was accompanied by her 2 sons, Charles 5 years & William 1½ . Her first husband Richard ELPHICK died at sea during the voyage.

Also aboard the 'Eleanor' were Bathsheba's sister Rebecca, born 23 November, 1817, Hawkhurst, Kent and her husband, Henry Francis WOODGATE. Rebecca & Henry married at Hawkhurst. They are believed to have had one child, born approx 1840, Hawkhurst.

Children of Bathsheba Friend & Richard ELPHICK: 1.Charles ELPHICK, b abt 1836 Hawkhurst, UK; d 1903 Newcastle NSW. 2.William ELPHICK, b abt 1840 Hawkhurst, UK

More about William ELPHICK. Little is known about William's early life. It is known that he had a relationship with Mary Ann Gribble. A record of their marriage has not been located. They had 3 children: 1.Charles born about 1862 at Lachlan Diggings, NSW. 2.Richard Thomas (named for his 2 grandfathers) born at Cashmere Station, Qld 1868 and died the same year. 3.Bathsheba Jane (named for her 2 grandmothers) born 1869 at Cashmere Station, Qld.

William was a butcher by trade.

Mary Ann Gribble was born in 1844 at Wilberforce NSW. Her parents were convicts, Thomas Gribble and Jane Irwin.

Charles (eldest son of William Elphick & Mary Ann Gribble) married Sarah McNanley, 1884 in Brisbane. (The Qld BDM record 1884/B009319 records her name as Silby McNanley.) Sarah was born in Manchester UK 1863. Her parents were Felix McNanley and Sarah Watson who may have arrived in Australia via Moreton Bay.

Charles and Sarah eventually moved to Victoria where Charles worked in Melbourne for some time before moving to Gippsland where he worked in a coal mine before settling on a dairy farm outside Foster in South Gippsland where they remained for the rest of their lives. They had a total of 9 children, including Alice Bathsheba Elphick, born 1898.

Bathsheba Jane married James Thomas Rogers in 1889 at Mormanton, Qld. James was a Customs officer. They had one unnamed child in 1892, who died shortly after birth. It is not known if they had any other children.

More about Charles ELPHICK (son of Bathsheba FRIEND & Richard ELPHICK, b abt 1856). Charles died in 1903 aged about 47 years, in Newcastle and it is stated on his birth certificate that it was unknown whether he was married or had children. He was a butcher by trade. (Jan - I have a copy of Charles's death certificate on file - happy to send a copy if you'd like it. cw)

Bathsheba formed a relationship with Thomas Mead WELLER. No record of a marriage has been located.

Children of Thomas Mead WELLER and Bathsheba FRIEND: 1.Sarah L WELLER b 1843, Sydney; d 1843 Sydney. Baptised 22 November, 1843, St Matthews CoE, Windsor. 2.Henry WELLER, b 12 July 1844; Stoke Hill, NSW d 18 December, 1908, Sydney 3.Rebecca WELLER, b 1848; m Captain Henry BASTIANS (BDM Ref V18481174 33A/1848). 4.Thomas WELLER, b 1851, St Matthews Windsor NSW (BDM Ref V18511837 37A/1851)

NB: Another descendant has suggested that Bathsheba & Richard Elphick also had a 3rd son who did not accompany them to Australia. I cannot confirm this & I don't know their sources.

Bye for now, Chris

MarriageP - Marriages Registered in New South Wales
Citation details: 819/1872 PAZTIAN HENRY WELLER REBECCA SYDNEY
MarriageEmails - Judith Knox
Citation details: 9 March 2010
Text:

Hello Stuart,

Many thanks for replying so quickly.

I am that Judith Knox.

Rebecca was 54 when she died.

Rebecca and Henry Bastian did not have any children. Sophie was not Henry Bastian’s daughter, my grandmother did not know this until she was an adult.

Rebecca's daughter Sophie (b.20.2.1870/71 – have not found the Birth Certificate* died 14.8.1954 Vaucluse Sydney) married Francis Letters, born in Alloa Scotland 6.6.1858 and died at Annandale Sydney 27.7.1931.

Sophie and Francis were married on 26.1.1897.

They had 4 sons all born in Gympie, Queensland. Francis Joseph Henry Letters 6.12.1897 - 23.9.1964 Louis Gilbert Letters 15.2.1899 - 24.10.1973 Napoleon (Leon) Ignatius Letters 9.6.1901 – 12.7.1979 Charles Stanislaus Letters 30.1.1905 – 24.1.1952 (died unmarried)

Leon Letters was my father, I am his eldest. I was born Judith Elizabeth Letters on 4.4.1943 in Coonamble NSW and married David Wykeham Knox (b.27.12.1935 in Bowral NSW) on 23.4.1970 in Sydney. We have 5 children and 2 grandchildren – so far. 1 sister and 1 brother.

Henry Bastian has been very difficult to find. I have spent about 30 years trying to find him. The Marriage Certificate had his name as “Henry Paztian” and he was supposed to be from Germany. No parents’ names were given for either Henry or Sophie although he was described as a “Mariner”. Henry’s Death Certificate said that his father was a Mariner, so perhaps there was some truth in the story that he was “born at sea and died at sea” as we had been told. One branch of the family say that he was a member of the “Plymouth Brethren” and was “drummed out of his church for marrying outside the faith”. I don’t know how true that is. I note from his Death Certificate that no Clergy was present. He was 52 when he died – he was the Master of the Steamer “Little Nell” which capsized. His cargo was a tug. I am still looking for his birth. I am trying to find the exact date of Thomas Weller's birth although I understand he was born in 1820.

At the present time I am collating BDM’S and other information for my children, siblings and cousins - it is a bigger job that I thought as I keep on finding more and more stuff.

  • I think I may have found a fictitious Birth Registration for her at Brisbane Waters District at “Blue Gum Flat”. We were told she was born in Melbourne but my brother said that he thinks that he has something somewhere which says that she was born somewhere near that area.

    When I have myself organized I will send your information on our families.

    Best wishes Judith Knox Sydney

MarriageDeath Certificate - Bastian - Henry
Publication: 16063/1898
MarriageDeath Certificate - Bastian - Rebecca
Publication: 1903/001957
MarriageMarriage Certificate - Paztian - Weller
Publication: 1872/000819
OccupationEmails - Christine White
Citation details: 28 March 2007
Text:

Hi Stuart,

This email ended up a lot longer than I planned, but I found I had more info on my work PC than I realised.

Re Bathsheba's death.

They didn't make life easy for those following after. Through the generations there are a number of Bathsheba's. I've listed each (that I know of so far) below.

The first one - wife of Richard Elphick, then Thomas Mead Weller, who was born in Hawkhurst, UK.

The 2nd was the daughter of William Elphick & Mary Ann Gribble (son of Bathsheba & Richard Elphick), who was born in Queensland in 1869. I found a copies of her birth & marriage certificates on my work pc that I've attached. They were sent to me by one of her descendants from Victoria.

The 3rd was the daughter of Thomas Weller jnr. & Eliza Jane Ashby (son of Bathsheba Elphick & Thomas Mead Weller) who was born in Newcastle NSW in 1884 and died 1885. This is the one mentioned in your email.

Re the 'Patzian' listing.

Correct - this is a transcription error. I have located a descendant of Rebecca Weller (daughter of the original Bathsheba & Thomas Mead Weller) named Judith Knox who has generously shared research from her uncle - Frank Letters.

From (faulty) memory Judith's grandmother was Sophie Bastians - daughter of Rebecca Weller & Henry Bastians & she in turn married Napoleon Letters.

Trivia: Henry Bastians was Captain Henry Bastians - a mariner.

OccupationEmails - Judith Knox
Citation details: 9 March 2010
Text:

Hello Stuart,

Many thanks for replying so quickly.

I am that Judith Knox.

Rebecca was 54 when she died.

Rebecca and Henry Bastian did not have any children. Sophie was not Henry Bastian’s daughter, my grandmother did not know this until she was an adult.

Rebecca's daughter Sophie (b.20.2.1870/71 – have not found the Birth Certificate* died 14.8.1954 Vaucluse Sydney) married Francis Letters, born in Alloa Scotland 6.6.1858 and died at Annandale Sydney 27.7.1931.

Sophie and Francis were married on 26.1.1897.

They had 4 sons all born in Gympie, Queensland. Francis Joseph Henry Letters 6.12.1897 - 23.9.1964 Louis Gilbert Letters 15.2.1899 - 24.10.1973 Napoleon (Leon) Ignatius Letters 9.6.1901 – 12.7.1979 Charles Stanislaus Letters 30.1.1905 – 24.1.1952 (died unmarried)

Leon Letters was my father, I am his eldest. I was born Judith Elizabeth Letters on 4.4.1943 in Coonamble NSW and married David Wykeham Knox (b.27.12.1935 in Bowral NSW) on 23.4.1970 in Sydney. We have 5 children and 2 grandchildren – so far. 1 sister and 1 brother.

Henry Bastian has been very difficult to find. I have spent about 30 years trying to find him. The Marriage Certificate had his name as “Henry Paztian” and he was supposed to be from Germany. No parents’ names were given for either Henry or Sophie although he was described as a “Mariner”. Henry’s Death Certificate said that his father was a Mariner, so perhaps there was some truth in the story that he was “born at sea and died at sea” as we had been told. One branch of the family say that he was a member of the “Plymouth Brethren” and was “drummed out of his church for marrying outside the faith”. I don’t know how true that is. I note from his Death Certificate that no Clergy was present. He was 52 when he died – he was the Master of the Steamer “Little Nell” which capsized. His cargo was a tug. I am still looking for his birth. I am trying to find the exact date of Thomas Weller's birth although I understand he was born in 1820.

At the present time I am collating BDM’S and other information for my children, siblings and cousins - it is a bigger job that I thought as I keep on finding more and more stuff.

  • I think I may have found a fictitious Birth Registration for her at Brisbane Waters District at “Blue Gum Flat”. We were told she was born in Melbourne but my brother said that he thinks that he has something somewhere which says that she was born somewhere near that area.

    When I have myself organized I will send your information on our families.

    Best wishes Judith Knox Sydney

OccupationDeath Certificate - Bastian - Henry
Publication: 16063/1898
Number of childrenEmails - Judith Knox
Citation details: 9 March 2010
Text:

Hello Stuart,

Many thanks for replying so quickly.

I am that Judith Knox.

Rebecca was 54 when she died.

Rebecca and Henry Bastian did not have any children. Sophie was not Henry Bastian’s daughter, my grandmother did not know this until she was an adult.

Rebecca's daughter Sophie (b.20.2.1870/71 – have not found the Birth Certificate* died 14.8.1954 Vaucluse Sydney) married Francis Letters, born in Alloa Scotland 6.6.1858 and died at Annandale Sydney 27.7.1931.

Sophie and Francis were married on 26.1.1897.

They had 4 sons all born in Gympie, Queensland. Francis Joseph Henry Letters 6.12.1897 - 23.9.1964 Louis Gilbert Letters 15.2.1899 - 24.10.1973 Napoleon (Leon) Ignatius Letters 9.6.1901 – 12.7.1979 Charles Stanislaus Letters 30.1.1905 – 24.1.1952 (died unmarried)

Leon Letters was my father, I am his eldest. I was born Judith Elizabeth Letters on 4.4.1943 in Coonamble NSW and married David Wykeham Knox (b.27.12.1935 in Bowral NSW) on 23.4.1970 in Sydney. We have 5 children and 2 grandchildren – so far. 1 sister and 1 brother.

Henry Bastian has been very difficult to find. I have spent about 30 years trying to find him. The Marriage Certificate had his name as “Henry Paztian” and he was supposed to be from Germany. No parents’ names were given for either Henry or Sophie although he was described as a “Mariner”. Henry’s Death Certificate said that his father was a Mariner, so perhaps there was some truth in the story that he was “born at sea and died at sea” as we had been told. One branch of the family say that he was a member of the “Plymouth Brethren” and was “drummed out of his church for marrying outside the faith”. I don’t know how true that is. I note from his Death Certificate that no Clergy was present. He was 52 when he died – he was the Master of the Steamer “Little Nell” which capsized. His cargo was a tug. I am still looking for his birth. I am trying to find the exact date of Thomas Weller's birth although I understand he was born in 1820.

At the present time I am collating BDM’S and other information for my children, siblings and cousins - it is a bigger job that I thought as I keep on finding more and more stuff.

  • I think I may have found a fictitious Birth Registration for her at Brisbane Waters District at “Blue Gum Flat”. We were told she was born in Melbourne but my brother said that he thinks that he has something somewhere which says that she was born somewhere near that area.

    When I have myself organized I will send your information on our families.

    Best wishes Judith Knox Sydney

NameMarriage Certificate - Paztian - Weller
Publication: 1872/000819
DeathEmails - Judith Knox
Citation details: 2 March 2010
Text:

The following message has been sent to your PhpGedView user account from Judith Knox

Your Name: Judith Knox Email Address: knoxletters@hotmail.com

Which of Bathsheba's children are you decended from? I am one of Rebecca's great grandchildren. I have just completed a list of Rebecca's decendants. Rebecca died 6.1.1903 in Gympie and her husband Henry Bastian died 16.12.1898.

DeathDeaths Registered in New South Wales
Publication: New South Wales Government
Citation details: 16053/1898 BASTIAN HENRY CHRISTOPHER LAURA STOCKTON
DeathDeath Certificate - Bastian - Henry
Publication: 16063/1898
BurialDeath Certificate - Bastian - Henry
Publication: 16063/1898
BurialSandgate Cemetery Trust
NoteEmails - Judith Knox
Citation details: 9 March 2010
Text:

Hello Stuart,

Many thanks for replying so quickly.

I am that Judith Knox.

Rebecca was 54 when she died.

Rebecca and Henry Bastian did not have any children. Sophie was not Henry Bastian’s daughter, my grandmother did not know this until she was an adult.

Rebecca's daughter Sophie (b.20.2.1870/71 – have not found the Birth Certificate* died 14.8.1954 Vaucluse Sydney) married Francis Letters, born in Alloa Scotland 6.6.1858 and died at Annandale Sydney 27.7.1931.

Sophie and Francis were married on 26.1.1897.

They had 4 sons all born in Gympie, Queensland. Francis Joseph Henry Letters 6.12.1897 - 23.9.1964 Louis Gilbert Letters 15.2.1899 - 24.10.1973 Napoleon (Leon) Ignatius Letters 9.6.1901 – 12.7.1979 Charles Stanislaus Letters 30.1.1905 – 24.1.1952 (died unmarried)

Leon Letters was my father, I am his eldest. I was born Judith Elizabeth Letters on 4.4.1943 in Coonamble NSW and married David Wykeham Knox (b.27.12.1935 in Bowral NSW) on 23.4.1970 in Sydney. We have 5 children and 2 grandchildren – so far. 1 sister and 1 brother.

Henry Bastian has been very difficult to find. I have spent about 30 years trying to find him. The Marriage Certificate had his name as “Henry Paztian” and he was supposed to be from Germany. No parents’ names were given for either Henry or Sophie although he was described as a “Mariner”. Henry’s Death Certificate said that his father was a Mariner, so perhaps there was some truth in the story that he was “born at sea and died at sea” as we had been told. One branch of the family say that he was a member of the “Plymouth Brethren” and was “drummed out of his church for marrying outside the faith”. I don’t know how true that is. I note from his Death Certificate that no Clergy was present. He was 52 when he died – he was the Master of the Steamer “Little Nell” which capsized. His cargo was a tug. I am still looking for his birth. I am trying to find the exact date of Thomas Weller's birth although I understand he was born in 1820.

At the present time I am collating BDM’S and other information for my children, siblings and cousins - it is a bigger job that I thought as I keep on finding more and more stuff.

  • I think I may have found a fictitious Birth Registration for her at Brisbane Waters District at “Blue Gum Flat”. We were told she was born in Melbourne but my brother said that he thinks that he has something somewhere which says that she was born somewhere near that area.

    When I have myself organized I will send your information on our families.

    Best wishes Judith Knox Sydney